tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post113059781791592706..comments2024-02-01T01:40:36.805-05:00Comments on Vinyl Mine: The Bottom of The Box (aka the Discs of Shame)Jim Hhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14126808520365186688noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-4591981498900798142010-11-25T05:13:17.682-05:002010-11-25T05:13:17.682-05:00Hey
I was the singer of the channel rats.Hey<br /><br />I was the singer of the channel rats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-8248499370095460382007-08-11T23:10:00.000-04:002007-08-11T23:10:00.000-04:00You should reconsider and post that Channel Rats/R...You should reconsider and post that Channel Rats/Rafgier split. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1133722262115167852005-12-04T13:51:00.000-05:002005-12-04T13:51:00.000-05:00Sorry. Meant "definitely surpass their studio work...Sorry. Meant "definitely surpass their <I>studio</I> work".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1133722138818326622005-12-04T13:48:00.000-05:002005-12-04T13:48:00.000-05:00Honestly, you're absolutely right about the studio...Honestly, you're absolutely right about the studio version of "Raping a Slave". The live, pre-EP version, however, is very cool and actually, at least vaguely, <I>melodic</I>. And it is true, live versions of stuff like "Children of God" (has both Jarboe and Gira vocals) definitely surpass their live work.<BR/><BR/>If you want truly amazing Swans, try these: "God Damn the Sun", "Blood Promise", "Telepathy", "Sex, God, Sex", "Fool", "Helpless Child", "I Crawled (Jarboe version)", "Miracle of Love", "Hiflos Kind", "Sensitive Skin", "Time is Money", "Killing for Company", "Love of Life".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1130984031350888342005-11-02T21:13:00.000-05:002005-11-02T21:13:00.000-05:00congrats on reaching the end of "box 1" -- i enjoy...congrats on reaching the end of "box 1" -- i enjoy checking in on this blog frequently. mitchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1130883470798562382005-11-01T17:17:00.000-05:002005-11-01T17:17:00.000-05:00Well, compared to the rest of Swans' studio output...Well, compared to the rest of Swans' studio output, I still think Filth, Cop and the EP hold up best.<BR/><BR/>But I guess I see your point about comparing it to live performance . . . I was too young to check Swans out in 1985. I did see them right before they became (in my opinion) totally useless at the end of the '80s, and even then, they were an outstanding live band. Next gig I saw was in 1992, supporting the not-so-hot Love of Life album. But the gig--at CBGB--was amazingly powerful, nothing like the LP. And those two final Swans tours in the late '90s were also incredible and better than the concurrent records (even though the last two studio albums are decent). So yeah, there's probably no comparison between the Raping a Slave EP and Swans' 1985 club dates. But it's still a decent record, I think.<BR/><BR/>And oh yeah, I also like the Killing Joke cover from that otherwise dreary Metallica EP. (Aside from a few tunes on the first album, time hasn't been all that kind to Killing Joke, either..)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1130795942827449372005-10-31T16:59:00.000-05:002005-10-31T16:59:00.000-05:00Swans were one of the most exciting live bands I e...Swans were one of the most exciting live bands I ever saw so I suppose that's why I found this EP (which came out in the same year as when I saw them live) didn't do it for me and still doesn't.Jim Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14126808520365186688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1130783487266271352005-10-31T13:31:00.000-05:002005-10-31T13:31:00.000-05:00I agree with you on the other three, but that Swan...I agree with you on the other three, but that Swans EP is damn cool. The drumming's just incredible (you try playing such odd beats so slowly w/o speeding up one iota). "This is Mine" has an amazingly cool lockstep waltz beat. In all fairness, Gira can be a little hard to take seriously, but he gets the job done and he's no cornier than Ozzy. <BR/><BR/>If you quit thinking of this stuff as "dark," "depressing," "industrial," "shocking" or "noise" and start thinking of it as "great hard rock" (i.e, a slowed-down, unfunky heir to Sabbath), you might begin to see it's appeal. It is, at very least, a useful aid for weightlifting. <BR/><BR/>For what it's worth, I think the EP is much less dated sounding and better produced than Children of God (the rockers like "New Mind" and "Sex, God, Sex" sound great, while the gothier "pretty" stuff has aged poorly).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1130635957942889112005-10-29T21:32:00.000-04:002005-10-29T21:32:00.000-04:00Seeing song titles like "Raping a Slave" makes me ...Seeing song titles like "Raping a Slave" makes me laugh now that we live in a world where Anal Cunt is harmless (albeit dirty) fun and some of the most cutting political satire comes bearing the banner headline, <A HREF="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42136" REL="nofollow">"I Just Wish I could Stop Shitting Blood."</A><BR/><BR/>It makes me wonder just <I>how sensitive</I> were people back in the '80s that Prince shocked the PMRC into existence, no one laughed when Axl Rose claimed "they're out to get me!", and Steve Albini was almost considered a terrorist. Honestly, I was too young at the time, so I'm damned curious!Sebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15861556483662617818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6484644.post-1130632890969853882005-10-29T20:41:00.000-04:002005-10-29T20:41:00.000-04:00I recall the first time I heard this record, proba...I recall the first time I heard this record, probably in '86 or '87. It was painful to listen to, in spite of my tastes for the likes of Foetus and Big Black at the time. But I was fascinated by it nonetheless. I've used it to clear out parties that ran too long, and occasionally play it at work when I'm pissed at my assistant. As for Swans' complete works, I find it more interesting then the $ records, but not as powerfully bleak and hopeless as anything from Children Of God onward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com